>> Good evening and thanks for joining us on the week in review.

I'm Nick Blumberg.

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Don't the ball >> Catholics celebrate the new holy father and locals rejoice over a Chicago born Dalton raced Sox fan, leaving the church with heartfelt celebrations and enough means to fill Saint Peter's Square.

>> This governor has bridge about Illinois being a firewall against President Trump's immigration enforcement agenda.

>> The Trump administration tries to turn up the heat on Governor Pritzker by sending DHS Secretary Kristi Noem to Springfield.

Meantime, Pritzker agrees to testify at a congressional hearing on immigration next month.

Building the safest most affordable, big city in America is what we have set out to do.

We're finally beginning to experience that Mayor Johnson celebrates as the city council signs off on a landmark affordable housing effort but runs into a wall of pushback over reported moves to install leaders at the CTA and CPS.

Organizers cancel a Latin music fest over visa concerns for performers and usually vibrant.

Cinco de Mayo celebrations are muted over fears of Trump's immigration crackdown and 2 more well known names.

Throw their hats in the ring to replace retiring Senator Durbin Congressmembers Raja Krishnamoorthi and Robin Kelly.

>> And now to our week in review panel.

Joining us are Brandon Pope from WC IU Katrina famine from borderless magazine.

Allison, from the Chicago Tribune and Justin Lawrence from Crain's Chicago Business.

Let's get right to it words.

I never thought I'd say the pope is from Chicago.

as expected.

Everybody was extremely cool and normal about brand and what stood out to you and the reaction to Pope Leo, the 14?

I think what stood out to me to see Chicago wins have so much pride, you know, and it's a fully on display in moments like this, whether you're Catholic or not, it's a moment in unison for the city.

>> The South side debating whether he's a Sox fan or a Cubs the means they came of it allure and Italian beef.

Just a great moment for the city.

But also when you look at his overall values, I think that's a moment for this country as well.

You look through his alleged old Twitter account, he Disagreements on immigration policy, which is something we're dealing with here in Illinois and throughout the entire country.

Disagreements on the handling from JD Vance and his interpretation of Catholicism.

>> So that's gonna be something to watch in the future.

But the fun part of this was just seeing how the city came together overall to kind of celebrate this historic moment.

Yeah, I mean, you know, maybe it was because Francis was such a beloved figure.

>> Maybe everybody really loved the movie conclave, but really did seem like a movie.

It's a great move.

I don't.

I mean, it seems like people were particularly invested interested in this Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

Me, Allison, were you surprised by that?

And a fervent attention to this process and first?

But then I was like that make sense because, you know, it's Chicago the fact that he is the first American vote pope.

But he is from Chicago.

I think really as another star on the city after we have taken some in national reputation over the years.

So I think it's nice for us to just stick it to New York.

said God decided which one's better Chicago or New show Chicago, and the American public.

I think it's just Chicago, Pope.

We've decided he's Chicago, not America coming this fall from NBC, Even though I with the Chicago P o for a long and go ahead and give up the title.

Yeah.

I think this guy might have up think so.

I think Well, let me Katrina, Brandon's point about, you know what we know of his values so far that he seems likely to continue Francis's tradition of concern for for people on the margins out outreach to different face.

You know, he's potential former, you know, social you know, expressions of belief after the celebrations died down.

Do you think we might see some some conflict there with American political figures over the Pope's views?

I mean, the the pope has really come out or in the past since.

>> Supported, you know.

Post on now acts about disagreements with the with the Trump in the van to ministration over their policies with migrants and so we'll have to see whether chooses to take a stance and whether that's one of the reasons right why the conclave chose and American pope to really push back on the impact that the Trump administration has had on migrants and refugees here in Chicago, especially since Catholic Church is one of the main forces in Becky G Resettlement here in Chicago and nationwide.

Yeah, especially, you know, not only an American pope, but someone with proving citizenship who spent a lot of time living and working there.

>> You as we've all been talking about, the the memes, the online attention when, you know absolutely wild.

Justin Lawrence, do you think that's going to die down anytime soon or is the spotlight?

Can it continue to shine?

Pretty bright on what you mean by through the end of the month?

Know maybe know.

People are.

I saw the first thing I saw yesterday after I saw the news, the someone saying Chicago is going to be so annoying about this and over.

He turned we were and we're proud of >> Now it was a very fun day.

was like an old school day on Twitter.

Rant is a very fun me Bubble Day.

Yeah.

I mean, Obama, Oprah, Michael Jordan and now we have a pope.

I think that's a pretty incredible.

>> For horse meat in a sense Pretty cool.

Pretty awesome.

But kind of coming to your point here.

I'm really fascinated to see what role he takes in terms of like it's going to be more outspoken.

Pope.

We saw what Pope Francis, he was a little more outspoken in his predecessor and kind of shook the system a little bit.

How far does polio take things you go any further heard Ezzy kind of step back.

I think that's going to be interesting to watch going forward.

Yeah, it seems like he's, you know, known as a little quieter, a little more of a deliberative figures.

it'll be interesting to see what what becomes of his papacy at a relatively young pope at 69.

Yeah, a lot of years ahead.

Absolutely.

One of the people celebrating a local pope was Chicago's number one cheerleader.

Mayor Brandon Johnson.

>> Also celebrated a big win on affordable housing.

Dallas.

One of the city council approved this week.

Yeah.

So this week after much deliberation, they finally approved his affordable housing revolving loan fund which sets up a nonprofit developer that low-interest loans to developers who want to build affordable housing units in the city.

So that's a major piece of his affordable housing plank and one that you could really use after, you know, much stalling and his progressive agenda over the months and coming right on time for his two-year anniversary in office.

>> Yeah, this was something, Justin, that there was a lot of behind the scenes negotiations that you took a lot to get this across the finish line.

Yeah.

And I think it was deliberate to try to get across the finish line for his 2 year anniversary.

Yeah, it 5 weeks ago.

Maybe is one of the first consternation certain coming up in 8.

I don't know the exact word but the what was originally introduced first, what was approved was they added a lot of language to appease alderman over a kind of ethics concerns over concerns that maybe labor want to be involved like they usually are in Chicago housing developments.

So I think the fun to lose 30 to So, you know, people and Chicago politics these is wow, you know, that's a that's landslide on It will be interesting to see you Taos is point if this is kind of just mirage, a one-off victory when everything else has been so stalled and China troublesome waters for for Johnson, even had alderman who usually disagree Yeah, actually come out and say, well, that's a good how it's put together place.

>> We can work on that.

But a good idea.

So that may be some signs of progress for City Council relations Idol that we're going see on that 1, I hope so.

But the in the impact of this legislative, this policy overall mean, it seems kind of minimal, 40 affordable housing units a year, maybe however.

Anything you would think would be good because the city faces major Clifford comes to affordable housing and you have more than 50% of people that live in the city spending more than 30% of their income on housing and utilities.

So everyone some really frightened.

So the more affordable housing, the better where it goes, what I'm looking for is going to be more concentrated in black and brown communities or somewhere else.

That's important.

became one of the kind touching points, all impact.

who's the Finance Committee chair and an ally of Johnson voted against over her concern?

Alice.

She's right.

And in the short term, this works best and more affluent neighborhoods where the the high rents high market rents can subsidize them for Lawrence.

you know that that is the plan in the near future.

And she says, hey, >> it's not going into 2.

She represents the South loop and then further down south.

So, you know, it might go in the South loop about the rest of my word is is what she said and in the near term.

That's right.

I think some housing activists and others pushed back that, hey, if we're using this money in these neighborhoods in this way, a freeze up other housing programs and funds that we use to to use elsewhere now.

And I think it's really interesting to think about how the city can start.

>> Funding things with city money instead of thinking about all of these federal grants because you know what the Trump administration and Chicago and Illinois are kind of like no pushing back and forth with the Trump administration about all of these different federal grants.

And so this is potentially an opportunity right to use money from the city from local taxpayers to fund local initiatives.

And if it works, right, it's 135 million now and and.

>> You know, grow.

Only get bigger.

me to that point about all the people that usually disagree with Johnson to that, you know, pretty comfortable margin.

Alex, do you think this might be something where we're seeing thought and improvement in relations between the mayor and members of City Council.

>> You know, perhaps the mayor's team becoming more adept at negotiating some of these legislative issues.

I think time will tell, you know, during the past 2 years we've seen president or on his release amount of close votes and tiebreakers and even with this a piece of legislation, there were a lot kinks behind the scenes on, including almost like last-minute delaying a committee vote because of asked me of the union of having concerns.

So I think there still is a long road to go with learning about the basics of and working with alderman.

But it seems like, you know, 30 18 is certainly nothing to downplay the tone.

It is right that they're striking, though.

I don't.

If you guys saw the article from Mariah Willful.

>> The Sun-Times talking with Johnson and was taking accountability and say, hey, we made some mistakes, including with that relationship with the city Council and how we treat those situations.

I think the first step is acknowledging there's a problem right from there.

What you do about it.

We got to see.

But that's some progress.

And from what we've seen in the past, which is the flipped and act like everything's fine.

So I'm very keen to see how this moves forward with others.

Do we see any of his even allies who have kind of, you know, stepped away a little bit, come back to the full 2.

Yeah, feel we've seen mayors in the past wait until campaign season to take that accountability.

So it might make sense to get out in front of it.

speaking of pushback from City Council, 30 older people are.

>> Calling on the school board to keep in place the requirement that the CPS leader has the superintendent's license.

This comes on the heels of reports that the mayor is considering his his chief of staff to be the interim CPS CEO Katrina, if you're a newly elected school board member, not to mention a CPS student or family member, how frustrating is all the political back and forth over district leadership this year?

>> Yeah, I mean, it's certainly frustrating because these are the people who are running or schools and have direct impact on your livelihood and things that are happening in your school and to see this back and forth between the school board and then Johnson over like whether or not someone to have a license or not to be a part of the board and everything that happened with CPS CEO Peter Martinez, like it's just very wishy-washy for the students who are currently in school.

I in school having their school year for them to not have it set up before the end of the school year.

And approaching like it can be very confusing for a lot of people.

I think.

Yeah.

And another question about.

>> Leadership, a potentially controversial appointment.

Justin, you had a story this week about who the mayor is considering 4.

The CTA is next president.

What did we learn?

You know, the mayor has been working behind the scenes to install the city's chief operating Officer John Robertson and John.

>> He is a longtime Cook County city official.

And one time he ran for a brief time ran the Department of Aviation.

And I haven't heard a lot opposition to him specifically, but but these transit advocates and and one of the mayor's own appointees to the CTA board are saying is, look, we need we're at a very bad time for for CTA and Springfield are debating the future of regional transit.

There's a 770 million dollar.

You know, combined fiscal cliff here.

We need a national expert, someone who has real transit experience to come in and thus far, Johnson is still hoping to put Roberson.

There was a strange CTA board meeting yesterday, a special meeting where they didn't really say much to public.

They went behind closed doors to discuss.

I imagine to discuss all of this and try to get on the same page, spent, you know, Johnson is not confirmed.

She does not talk about personnel decisions as he likes to say that Roberson is this is But at this point, if it's not Robertson, mayor is backing away from that.

That is the person wants to install guy had the pleasure of being at that meeting.

It was half an hour public comment of people saying don't do in an hour of closed doors.

>> have to wonder, too, at a time where yet facing down a fiscal cliff trying to, you know, come back from this huge service deficit.

You know, the the acting president, whether she gets the job or someone with a long tenure there, it seems like it might be potentially, you know, risky to try to install a new president before things are settled in Springfield.

certainly.

>> authority of the job could be changed in the next month or 2 months 7 months get it done.

This the session.

you know, I also think maybe points to even though there's calls for a national search, let's find a expert in the field.

Someone with a long history.

I don't know that.

Someone from the outside might be hesitant to come here while there's so much uncertainty and you don't know the financial picture.

And and John Roberson is someone you know, long ties Experience.

He might look in a different way and say, hey, I've got the chops to navigate this kind of uncertainty their circle of people he can trust is just getting smaller and smaller interest Roberson.

He trusts his chief of staff to leave these agencies.

>> And as he's to those taken hits internally within the progressive movement, I think he is just very mindful of who is out to get him or who is actually behind him.

Yeah.

And you know, a national search costs money.

It takes time to could be a difficult process.

I think the key thing here for Roberson is can he can you actually get money?

>> Federal and state that's crucial.

That's probably the number one qualification.

know advocates want someone that's road CTA before, but want get some money for CTA.

It's that should be priority number one at this point, right?

Yeah.

And there are a lot of very complicated streams of funding would have to come together salute the CTA running.

So and so important to the city to oh, yes, absolutely.

What we Dhs Secretary Kristi Noem visiting Springfield this week, got some pushback from from Democrats from immigrant advocates over misinformation about Crime pushback from the family of a woman allegedly killed by her partner who's a Mexican National Katrina was there, you know, much substance to this visitor wasn't sort of a poke in the eye to Governor Pritzker.

I think it's just the latest in the Trump administration's effort to really push back on sanctuary cities.

I mean, they have.

>> The lawsuit against Chicago in Illinois for sanctuary policies they have, you know, it's in the to pull funding from the city and the state because of the sanctuary policies and not unknowns here.

She was just here to kind of talk about sanctuary policies but nothing else that DHS is also working on here, like the real ID's, for example.

And so that's something that that is a pain point for a lot of Chicagoans right now.

We're waiting in these hours.

Long lines for real ID's.

And I think the secretary, secretary of the state Alexi Giannoulias was saying wise, Christine O I'm here to talk about sanctuary policies and not of the things that are actually impacting us right now, which are these long lines at the Real ID facility.

So think it was a lot like Pritzker said, just public PR about policies and China.

Double down on there message that these policies are really harmful to community members.

Guess what?

The parents of the woman who Kristi Noem was invoking had to say, you know, saying.

>> urging her, please don't do this because our daughter doesn't you know, espouse the same views and policies that you're spewing right now.

That dynamic right there and seeing government that just like when we forget all that was going to go forward anyway, we not a great reception here in Springfield for I wonder how much of this is about.

Targeting Pritzker?

You I think a lot more of this over the next.

Yeah.

And to cause he's definitely mulling the bid.

And that's gonna make in public enemy number one or 1, 2, 3, 4, a others in contention.

But he's a guy who's a 2028 threat with his money and resources.

He's also a twenty-twenty 6 midterm he's already putting money into actually a he's not been shy about criticizing Trump on the specific policies kind of trying to set himself up as like lead attack on Cuba Governor Whitmer.

absolutely.

covering her face up with NBC Bay Area.

will and a photo.

I mean, speaking of, you know, Governor Pritzker, he's he's agreed to testify at this congressional hearing on states immigration policies.

I mean, what's the upside for him?

Hears defending Illinois's is burnishing.

His reputation.

Is this Yes, I covered when Mayor Johnson wait for the exact same committee hearing.

>> And and, you know, a lot of it is pretty much political theater.

They're not there to actually discovered discovered the solution to immigration policy in the U.S. lot of it a trap that could backfire on the Democratic governor and the mayor Zahn who showed up.

also if show up and perform well, I think that be a good rebuttal to the Republicans while also considering that Illinois is being sued for the picture is that people >> I went you know, we all know Governor Pritzker here obviously.

But and poll after poll after poll at the national level, he does not fare among the top contenders for 2028 or previously for vice president potentially 2024 run and so gets another chance to be primetime TV.

Well, you know, for political dark, still be primed to right foot.

>> because chance to be in the spotlight on in this, you know, situation politically, it's also an opportunity to make a moment for sorority somebody can Clipper say, you know, the capture a moment.

So I'm sure that's part of the calculation for I'll be curious to see if he can really get his message across in a different way than Johnson.

Johnson really came across as he has.

If he was reading like.

>> From a script and really robotic.

Leanne.

And you know, there are other mayors there who kind of went viral on social media, right for their, you know, clickable moments in.

You're kind of talking about that are kind of supporting immigrants and migrants and Be really interesting see if Pritzker can have that same message entire story of this thing.

Bulwark story on how he sold me bone is a bracing itself.

He will.

I think you'll come prepared.

Sometimes we've have.

>> Have somewhat the dad jokes that that don't always land.

When was here a month ago, we're talking about one of those that he will come prepared with those quips and hopes that one of them sticks.

And I you know, that come on, sometimes they can because sometimes it can be hard They're high risk, right?

Sometimes.

I wanted say that didn't land at all.

Yeah.

I guess if you're going for a first do no harm approach.

You probably stay away from the Alright?

Well, sticking with a politics for a minute.

We've got 2 members of Illinois's congressional delegate delegation jumping into the Senate race.

>> Robin, Kelly, Chris, North me also a member of the delegation stepping down, longtime Representative Jan Schakowsky.

You know, Justin, how how credible are these races going to get voted pretty crowded.

I mean, there's another representative Lauren Underwood.

>> Is somewhat expected to jump in and the on the Northside race.

You know, there's 3 or 4 candidates.

I everything American been on might be considered the favorite there.

But I want to be surprised if more jump And this is just, you know, ever since to And Senator Durbin announced that he is not seeking another term.

We are in political season, Illinois, in Chicago for 4 And this really is changing of the guard for a mean, you know, to Durbin and Jan Schakowsky, stalwarts of Illinois politics.

I mean, it seems like the.

>> The congressional delegation could have a bigger learning curve in, you know, in the next couple of terms.

Absolutely.

I'm curious what Underwood's going to do here because the calculus you would think with black women being the backbone of the Democratic Party.

If you split the vote too much kind of the student's Stratton.

Kelli Underwood hurt themselves altogether.

And all 3 looms with that calculus.

I'm very curious about what that done.

It was going to be like Underwood just says, hey, I mean, a congressional district where this can go and go read as Do I stay and keep the seat or do I offer that a new generation of leadership?

She's like what?

38 years old and stick to them message.

But yeah, we're seeing a changing of the guard that this cards and dominoes falling.

We're going to see a lot of names public that I'm sure maybe we don't even expect just to see and test the waters you never knew was going to catch fire Schakowsky seat with cat.

I'm gonna try to say name is You go.

think I got Okay.

I spoke confidently.

Identify got it right.

>> You know, young doesn't live in the district and she has moved their What factor will she be versus some of the more establishment candidates who have But we sure.

>> I'm sure there will be some states.

Senator Laura, find jump in.

Yeah, I mentioned, this is I don't think he's I think you raise but people assume any.

Well, yeah, I'm >> It's hotbed of politics on the Northside going to be are set watch.

Well, we've got about 45 seconds left, but I want to get to organizers of that Latin musical music festival postponing.

>> Cinco de Mayo Parade parade canceled.

You know, Alex, do you think we'll see more of these cultural celebrations, you know, canceled or altered in some way because of concerns about the Trump administration's immigration policy.

Yeah, I think so.

Right now it's all in free fall.

And while the courts have tried push back at times, know, it's pretty much.

>> president of time for immigration enforcement and I think these organizers are thinking better safe than sorry.

Yeah.

You have to imagine that the safety attendees is going to be a a big question.

All right.

Well, we had a lot to get to.

And you are a great panel to talk about it with, but we are out of time.

So are thanks to Brandon Pope Katrina Fam.

Allison and Justin Lawrence.

And we're back to wrap things up right after this.

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I'm Nick Blumberg.

Thank you for watching.

Stay healthy, stay safe and stay informed.

Have a great >> All right.

Katrina, you had a piece this week about a Vietnamese Americans marking the 50th anniversary of the fall of Saigon.

What you hear from them.

>> So I'm hearing, you know, from people who actually lived through the war and who came here as refugees, who somewhere living in reeducation camps in South Vietnam when northern Vietnam took over the country.

And, you know, there's still a lot of pain for them.

The people who lived through the war.

But there's a lot of hope for the younger generation that that that that living here in Chicago not know their children, the second and 3rd generation and what they can build here, the success that they can have.

So I think there's a mix of that pain, but also hope for the future.

Yeah, I mean, folks have, you know, some really deep roots here.

>> Yeah, I mean, you look to walk down Argonne Street in uptown.

That's all the enemies, businesses.

And that's all from the fall of Saigon.

That's all from after the Vietnam War.

I mean, that was biggest, my biggest refugee resettlement effort in U.S. history.

And so many people came here to Chicago.

Well, thought about that before.

It's really awesome.

Yeah.

It's a huge community.

>> Well, you know, another congressional piece of testimony this week, the polls president talking about campus protests and Anti-Semitism.

You know, Brandon, it seems like Republicans aren't necessarily letting up on, you know, higher education.

What do think happens next?

>> Yeah.

With these Anti-Semitism concerns, you heard the DePaul president say, hey, I did make some mistakes.

Ultimately him, please side on at the about the pet pro-Palestinian groups on and threw it into the >> Closed captioning is made possible by Clifford and Clifford Law offices, a Chicago personal injury and wrongful death for that supports educational