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December 17, 2023 - PBS News Weekend full episode
Sunday on PBS News Weekend, as Capitol Hill haggles over border security measures, we get the latest from Arizona, where migrant crossings are hitting record highs. Then, how the process for college financial aid is changing and how it’s affecting students and parents. Plus, the legacy of Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor and her work to end the practice of electing state judges.
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December 17, 2023 - PBS News Weekend full episode
12/17/2023 | 26m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Sunday on PBS News Weekend, as Capitol Hill haggles over border security measures, we get the latest from Arizona, where migrant crossings are hitting record highs. Then, how the process for college financial aid is changing and how it’s affecting students and parents. Plus, the legacy of Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor and her work to end the practice of electing state judges.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipwith squabbling on Capitol Hill over border# security measures, the latest from the border## in Arizona where migrant crossings are# hitting record highs.
Then how the process## for college financial aid is changing and# how it's affecting students and parents.
WOMAN: I think a lot of advocates are worried# that students may miss out on a date that they## otherwise qualified for because so many# instances it's first come first serve.
JOHN YANG: And days before her funeral this week,# the legacy of Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day## O'Connor and the work she did after retiring# to end the practice of electing state judges.
(BREAK) JOHN YANG: Good into Gaza providing a second entry point# for a much needed humanitarian aid.
It's## at Kerem Shalom which is on the Gaza Strip# southwest corner.
It's south of the Rafah## crossing were desperate Gazan swarmed# the few trucks that arrived from Egypt.
Phone and internet service and Gaza# has been down for four straight days,## the longest period of# isolation since the war began.
Meanwhile, the Israeli military released footage# showing a newly discovered en ough for a car.
It's in areas which had been the# main pedestrian crossing between Israel and Gaza.
And in Tel Aviv last night, thousands of people# took to the streets as public pressure builds on## the government to renew negotiations for the# return of the 129 hostages still captured.
Former president Donald Trump is being# roundly criticized for anti-immigrant## comments he made last night at# a New Hampshire campaign event.
DONALD TRUMP, Former U.S. President: We get a# lot of work to do.
They're poisoning the blood# of our country.
That's what they've done.
They# poison mental institutions and th e world.
They're coming into our country# from Africa, from Asia all over the world.## They're pouring into our country.
Nobody's# even looking at them.
They just come in.
JOHN YANG: Republican rivals Nikki Haley# and Chris Christie both denounced Trump's## language and the Biden campaign said he# parented Adolf Hitler.
In the manifesto## Mein Kampf Hitler called immigration# and the mixing of races blood poisoning.
The waters off the entire east coast# from Florida to Maine or under gale or## storm warnings as a large weather system moves# north.
It dumped as much as five inche on Florida flooding streets.
High coastal winds# forced the cancellation of holiday boat parades.
The FAA warns that holiday# travelers could face delays,## especially at New York's three city airports.
Pope Francis turned 87 today becoming# the oldest Pope of the last an d one of the oldest Pope's ever.
He's# been hospitalized twice this year for## abdominal surgery and bronchitis.
He said he'd# consider resigning if he was unable to carry on.
And in Boston last night they marked the# 250th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party## with a reenactment.
People in 18th century dressed# dumped crate after crate of tea leaves into Boston## Harbor recreating the famous act of defiance# that helped kickstart the American Revolution.
The tea dumped last night was provided# by the East India Tea Company the same## British supplier whose tea was dumped# 250 years ago letting bygones be bygones.
Still to come on PBS News weekend,## what to know about changes to the federal# stud Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor worked to# end the practice of electing state judges.
(BREAK) JOHN YANG: This afternoon, White House officials# and Senate Republicans r deal on new border security measures.# Without an agreement, Republicans say## they will not vote for more money for Ukraine.# A record number of migrants on the southern## border could push President Biden to consider# restrictions that in the past he's denounced.
We'll look at the situation on the border,# Danyelle Khmara who covers the border for## Arizona Public Media.
Danyelle, we'll# hear these numbers.
We hear them say,## you know, record number record# surge of migrants at the border,## you're there you go to the border, what# does a record surge look like there.
DANYELLE KHMARA, Arizona Public Media: So# basically, the numbers of people that are## coming across the border right now in this region# have almost doubled area is now the area that's getting the# highest number of migrants crossing the## border.
And what it looks like is it looks# like hundreds of people a day so metimes over 1,000 people a day,# crossing the border, and then basically## turning themselves over to Border Patrol# waiting to be processed by border patrol.
And border patrol prioritizes processing families# and people with young children of which there are## many.
And then they will process these single# adults, mostly single men after that.
So some## of these migrants are waiting out in the# desert for days waiting to be processed.
JOHN YANG: Now I've read that# they've closed one port of entry## along the Arizona-Mexico border cutting# off DANYELLE KHMARA: Yeah, so basically, there's this# port of entry in this town called Lukeville that## got shut down a couple of weeks ago, officials# said that they were shutting that down so they## could move the dozen or so customs officers to# help Border Patrol process some of these migrants.
What that means is that the direct route that was# provided by that port of entry to Puerto Penasco,## to beaches that Arizonans lovingly call Arizona's# beach in Mexico, that route is now shut off,## which has had devastating effects for# the economy in that area, as well.
It is having an impact on the small communities# that live around that port of entry,## who used to have a direct route to have# to cross the border to visit family to go## shopping to go to doctor's appointments.
And# now they no longer have access to that direct## route.
And they would have to go hours out# of their way to be able to do that crossing.
JOHN YANG: In addition to that# having to go farther to cross the## border.
How is this affecting life# for residents on the American side DANYELLE KHMARA: Yeah, so you know, as far as# the large numbers of migrants that are crossing,## it is not affecting the majority of residents# that live on the border and around the border.## And the reason why is because a number of# nongovernmental organizations have really## rallied together to put up services# for these migrants temporary services.
There are a number of them along the border,# Border Patrol, will drop off migrants with## these services.
And then there are more robust# services that sent buses to bring the migrants## to Tucson and to Phoenix where they can give them# overnight services.
They can give them clothes,## food and assistance to make their travel# arrangements to go to their final destination,## which is typically with friends and family# members in other parts of the country.
So your average person living in these# border communities is not seeing these## large groups of migrants on a regular basis# or for most people, probably not much at all.
JOHN YANG: Now I know the governor has# sent the National Guard to the border,## what are the National Guardsmen going to do?
DANYELLE KHMARA: Yeah, so she just announced# this on Friday that she would Na tional Guard to the border.
We have in this# region right now.
I believe it's 243 National## Guard.
So as far as what they're going# to do, she said that they are going to be## helping with border security measures that# could include drug interdiction that could## include possibly helping with the number of# migrants that are crossing into the country.
But since she just announced it on Friday,## it is yet to be seen what that is# JO HN YANG: And she's also asking for# help from the federal government.
Sh wrote a letter to President Biden, what# does s DANYELLE KHMARA: Yeah, well, basically,# she asked President Biden to open the## Port of Entry immediately, which was# one of the reasons why local officials## want that port opened is because Arizona's# economy, especially their tourist economy,## does get a lot of money from Mexican# tourists coming into the region.
And also our Governor and other elected# officials have been asking for more robust## money and more robust services to be# helping with getting these migrants## services once they come into the country# and getting them to their next destination.
JOHN YANG: Is this situation sustainable?# Or does something really have to change?
DANYELLE KHMARA: One of the many things that's not# sustainable is that a lot of or ganizations that are helping migrants in cities# like Tucson and Phoenix are constantly in a state## of concern that they are not going to have enough# resources to continue providing these services.
And the reason why is because the federal# government has been doling out grants to## help cover these services, in short, short# funding amounts.
So these nongovernmental## organizations can only plan so far ahead.# And with the large influx of migrants,## the fact that more and more people keep# coming and that number keeps growing,## the money is not lasting as long as# these organizations need it to last.
They have been saying for quite some time now that## they need a funding source that is# more sustainable JOHN YANG: Danyelle Khmara of Arizona# Public Media Thank you very much.
DANYELLE KHMARA: Thank you so much.
JOHN YANG: Paying for college can be costly# and confusing.
The road to financial aid## usually begins with what's called the# Free Application for Federal Student Aid## or FAFSA.
It helps determine which federal# grants and loans a student qualifies for,## and schools use the information on the# forum to make their financial aid decisions.
Now after years of delays, a new version# of the form is to be released at the end## of the month.
And while it promises# increased access to financial aid,## the delays are likely to be putting# universities and students in a bind,## giving them less time to crunch the numbers and# comb over the details of fina Danielle Douglas-Gabriel covers the economics and## finances of higher education for# The Washington Post.
Da what are the big changes in this form?
There was# significant changes and why DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL, The Washington Post: So## there are a lot of questions instead of 106 are down to 36# questions, which is great for families.
Also, there are far more people who# will qualify for the maximum amount## of the Pell Grant Award.
This is a form# of federal aid that goes to low and middle## income students.
Now instead of only a few# million, being able to qualify for the max,## another 1.5 million students will get the full# max, which at this year stands at over $7,000.
And then also it'll be a whole lot easier for# families to get their financial information## from the IRS automatically populated onto# the FAFSA form, which also really saves## you time skip a bunch of questions make# the whole process go by a lot faster.
JOHN YANG: bringing up this new form revising# the form.
Why is this taking so long?
DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Well, the Education# Department says that it has been a monumental## undertaking, I think they've used that exact# phrase several times in talk in part because you have to overhaul the existing# system systems that haven't been updated for 30,## 40 years.
In some instances, they have# to meet new security standards set by## the IRS to make sure that information that# they're populating onto the forum is secure.
All of these moving parts and pieces# are happening at the same time,## as the department has a laundry list# of policy projects to try to get done,## including making it easier for public servants to# get loan forgiveness to make it easier for people## who have been paying back their loans for 20,# 25 years to get some loan forgiveness as well,## in addition to lots of other policy# priorities, and there are only but so## many people at the department and they're all# working on all these very So as a result, the department# says there has been some delays.
JOHN YANG: This is a whole new system,# it's going to be brand new.
Are there# advocates for students who for financial# aid who worry that there are go be some glitches unforeseen problems# that will screw up the w DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: I mean, that's always a# possibility when you are standing up a ne and when you're making such big changes to# an existing system.
I think of advocates are more concerned with what# the delays will mean for students and their## families in terms of making informed decisions# about financial aid and where to attend college.
As you remember, John, this form not only is# used by the federal government to determine aid,## but also states to determine state# aid for college students as well as## the schools of which they attend.
So all# of those pieces have to come together in## order for families to figure out where# could they can afford to go to college.
JOHN YANG: And it's becoming available sort of in# the middle of the college application process.
used to be available at the beginning in# October what effect is that delay have?
DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: So the issue here# is for a lot of the states that rely on the## facet to make their student aid determinations.# Some states have those forms so me states have them out at the end of December.
So having delays on the federal end# could delay student's advantage of state aid.
And without# the federal government saying, hey,## states, were a little bit behind.
Can# you please cut students a little slack?
I think a lot of advocates are worried# that students may miss out on aid that## they otherwise would have qualified for.# Because so many instances it's first come,## first serve.
And if there's a delay on one# end, then it kind of sets everything else back.
JOHN YANG: What are the other changes# I understand wanting to make was to## adjust the numbers automatically in# the form to consider for But that hasn't worked out quite as well has it?
DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Not exactly.
So,# one of t Congress passed in order to make all these# changes possible was that there'd be a great amount of income protection.
So for parents an# increase of 20 percent, students an increase of## 35 percent, and students who# have children on their own,## an increase of 60 percent of your income# would be protected in In addition to that protection, all of# that would be adjusted for inflation.
Now,## the department accidentally forgot to# input that inflation adjustment.
And it## happened to be at one of the periods# of the highest level of inflation,## inflation records that we haven't seen for# generations.
So as a result of that, it## creates an artificially high calculation of what# people should be paying, or what they actually## should receive in federal student aid, and state# and institutional aid.
So that's a huge concern.
The Department says they're aware of# it, they're going to fix it for the## next cycle.
But for this upcoming# cycle, the '24, '25 academic th ere are a lot of students who may not get# as much aid as they are actually entitled to.
JOHN YANG: This is, as we've been talking# a very complicated, very complex process,## sort of daunting for parents and students# to go through what advice do you have for## parents and students who are doing# this, perhaps for the first time?
DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Don't be# frightened, I have to say this forum## is a lot simpler and a lot easier to# access than many moons ago.
And I think that's a great# thing, right?
It's a lot shorter.
It's a lot## more intuitive.
And it should be really helpful# for parents to get through this with ease.
I would also advise to get it# done as quickly as you can, again,## a lot of states are first come, first serve# with their scholarships and grants institutions in some instances also think# about it in that way.
But all that really## matters is getting the form filled out and# don't think because you are a you know,## upper middle income family that you shouldn't# fill it out there is aid available for everyone.## And it's not just need based aid for this.# It's also merit based in some instances.
So please make sure to take advantage of this form## in order to get as much money as# your student could qualify for.
JOHN YANG: Good advice from# Danielle Douglas-Gabriel with## the Washington Post.
Thank you very much.
DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Thank you.
JOHN YANG: Tomorrow, Sandra Day O'Connor,# who died earlier this month at 93 will lie in## repose at the Supreme Court, the setting for the# accomplishments she may be best remembered for.
But her 2006 retirement for the court was# not the end of her involvement in public## affairs.
She spent her last active years# working to end the election of judges,## which is currently the practice in 39# states.
She saw it as incompatible with an## independent judiciary.
She explained it at a 2010# conversation with Judy Woodruff on the NewsHour.
SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR, Former Associate Justice# of the Supreme Court of the United States: You## campaign contributions when you have# elections.
And I don't think we should## have any cash in our courtrooms.
It doesn't# belong here.
How can the judge be expected## to be absolutely fair and impartial?# If the donor is a forum and the court.
JOHN YANG: She worked on this project with# the Institute for the Advancement of the## American legal system at the University of# Denver.
Rebecca Love Kourlis i executive director of that organization.# She's also a former Supreme Court justice## in Colorado where we should add that since# 1966, all state judges have been appointed.
Rebecca, when I've heard Justice# O'Connor talk about this in the past,## she always linked it to her disappointment,# I guess you'd say or disma effects of a decision in the court in which she# was in the majority.
Can you tell us about that?
REBECCA LOVE KOURLIS, Former Exec.
Dir., Institute# for the Advancement of the American Legal System:## which there was a determination by the# United States Supreme Court that judges## could not under the for First Amendment# be constrained in their campaign speech.
The practical implication of that is that# or has been that judges are free to actually## campaign for a judicial seat too much as one# would campaign for any other elective office## without the constraints that the judicial# Code of Conduct would otherwise impose.
JOHN YANG: So much of American politics# over the last few years has played out## in the courts the fight over the# 2020 election.
Earlier this year,## there was record spending in a Supreme Court# reason Wisconsin, North Carolina redistricting## changed when the majority on the court changed.# To what extent are events making the case for you?
REBECCA LOVE KOURLIS: Yes, actually, they# absolutely are.
But the problem is that changing## judicial selection processes is constitutional# in the various states across the country.
And,## of course, just for clarification, we're# talking here now about state court judicial## selection.
Federal Judicial selection is a# whole different ball of wax or can of worms,## whichever way you want to look at it.# But that's not something with which we## worked with Justice O'Connor, and that# is a United States Constitution issue.
So these are state by state constitutions, which# are very difficult to change.
But you are so## right, the infusion of partisan politics where# they don't belong, and the increasing polarity## of partisan politics absolutely makes the argument# that judges should not be in the middle of that.
JOHN YANG: Now, your organization# and Justice O'Connor came up with## a blueprint for how to achieve this.
What# are th REBECCA LOVE KOURLIS: It's a Four Point Plan,# which is called the O'Connor Judicial Selection## Plan.
In the first instance, it involves choice of# a panel of individuals by a nominating commission,## variously appointed, depending# upon the state you're looking at,## but from different appointing authorities# and with a bipartisan makeup, that commi tenders names to the governor of that state,# who then chooses one of those individuals.
The individual serves for a provisional# term is subjected to a judicial performance## evaluation process, and then stands for what# is known as retention on the ballot for a yes,## no up or down vote from the electorate# but with the benefit of having gone## through sort of the job evaluation that the# judicial performance evaluation interposes.
JOHN YANG: How much progress do you# feel you're making on this issue?
REBECCA LOVE KOURLIS: Not much, to be entirely# candid notion that they want judges to be accountable.# And to some extent, I get that you don't want## robe judges who have no connection to their# community or to the pulse of the community.
On the other hand, what that accountability# looks like is really the issue, a partisan## election where there's an R or a D or# an I or a U next to the judges name,## and where the judge has to campaign# and express opinions.
And as Justice## O'Connor said in that clip, raise# money.
That's not the answer.
There are other ways such as this judicial# performance evaluation process to achieve## accountability without it invading# impartiality.
But it's a tough sell## American electors want the capacity to yank# somebody out of office if they think they're## out of line or have some sense of control# over the process.
So it's a very tough sell.
JOHN YANG: As you worked with# Justice O'Connor on this,## did you get a sense of how# important this was to he REBECCA LOVE KOURLIS: Oh, was incredibly# important.
There was in Nevada in 2010.
And Justice O'Connor worked# the state.
I mean, she literally made herself## available for interviews and clips and almost# pounding the pavement in an effort to communicate## to Nevada voters how important this was, and it# ended up losing 58-42, I think if my memory serves But she was willing to go all out she was# so passionate about trying to ensure that## judges had the capacity to be impartial that the# noises in their head or the angels or devils on## their shoulders were not comprised of trying to# elicit public opinion in some way or raise money.
JOHN YANG: Rebecca love coreless talking## about working with Sandr REBECCA LOVE KOURLIS: You're# very welcome.
Thank you so much.
JOHN YANG: Now online, how nurses who worked at# historic black hospital are fighting to keep i memory alive decades after it closed.
All that# and more is on our website, kpbs.org/newshour.
And that is PBS News Weekend for this Sunday.# I'm John Yang.
For all of my colleagues,## thanks for joining us.
Have a good week.
How Arizona is responding to a record surge of migrants
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Clip: 12/17/2023 | 6m 8s | How Arizona is responding to a record surge of migrant crossings at the border (6m 8s)
What to know about upcoming changes to FAFSA
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Clip: 12/17/2023 | 6m 42s | Why changes are coming to FAFSA and how it will affect financial aid for college (6m 42s)
Why Sandra Day O'Connor fought to end elections of judges
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Clip: 12/17/2023 | 7m 12s | Why Sandra Day O'Connor fought to end the practice of electing state judges (7m 12s)
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