
Congress at Odds Over How to Reform Department of Homeland Security
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A partial government shutdown could be coming if lawmakers don't reach a deal.
Democrats' demands include no masks for agents, as well as requiring officials to obtain a judicial warrant before entering private property. But Republicans and the White House are pushing back on some of the measures.
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Congress at Odds Over How to Reform Department of Homeland Security
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Democrats' demands include no masks for agents, as well as requiring officials to obtain a judicial warrant before entering private property. But Republicans and the White House are pushing back on some of the measures.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Tense exchanges today on Capitol Hill as Attorney General Pam Bondi face heat from lawmakers over the Epstein files and more.
>> Glad you finally made it here after hiding for 4 months from this committee.
And I writing it my chairman, you're one of the worst attorney generals in our history and then instrument of Donald Trump's lawless authoritarian agenda.
Democrats must impeach and remove lawless officials like you and Christine on.
>> Yeah, know this comes as lawmakers continue to negotiate funding for the Department of Homeland Security, which Democrats are holding up over proposed reforms to immigration enforcement efforts.
Joining us now on zoom from Capitol Hill is Congressman Jesus Chuy Garcia, who is not seeking re-election.
We were hoped to be joined by Congresswoman Delia Ramirez, who is not facing an opponent opponent in next month's primary election.
But I think there's a vote going on right now.
And I think that's where she is.
We hope she joins us.
We should mention we also invited Republican Congressman Mike Bost and Darin LaHood but have not heard back.
Congressman Garcia, thank you for filling us.
know, there's lot going on right now.
Good evening join your Brent's.
So you sit on the House Judiciary Committee.
This is, of course, where we heard Attorney General Pam Bondi testifying today in sparring with Congress.
People.
What's your reaction to her performance today?
>> Even though she had acted this way in the Senate, I thought she might change her approach in the House of Representatives.
I can't believe that an attorney general would conduct herself in the disrespectful.
The vases, the lack of empathy for Epstein, assault survivors that we're in the audience and essentially coming to debate instead of to answer questions and engage in serious debate.
A total disrespect for the institution for the process of law.
The Congress doing its oversight responsibility.
>> So yesterday congressional leaders said that a deal to fund the Department of Homeland Security is possible.
This is before a potential partial shutdown could happen this weekend.
funding measure is not passed in time, would you say that you all are still far apart and that that partial shutdown is likely?
>> As of this moment where final the offer that Democrats made to the White House?
The response from the White House vague adequate and unserious in terms of specifics minorities are to end war?
Lis enforcement, the rates that have going on violating people's rights in masks were asking for respect for sensitive locations like schools and clinics and houses of worship, places with the community should be able to gather peacefully without interruption.
And of ending the racial profiling.
That has been a prime feature the violence that we've seen were ever ice Customs and Border Protection appear in country and disrupt cities and disrupt the life and terrorize communities with their masks dogs as they do this aggressive, unlawful enforcement.
>> So what agencies would be impacted, Congressman, if a partial shutdown should happen?
>> In addition to the Department of Homeland Security, Ice and Customs and Border Protection, TSA airports would be affected as would the federal Emergency Management Agency.
There's no reason for shutdown to Republicans are insisting because they refused to relent and abiding by the constitutional by the Constitution.
And of course, the rule of law.
And of course, ending the reign of terror that we've seen everywhere with ICE presents itself in cities across America.
>> So you named a few of the demands that Democrats would like to see judicial warrant or the use of judicial warrants versus administrative warrants for entering homes and other places.
Better identification of DHS officers or ICE and immigration officers like not wearing masks or wearing name tags, something identifiable.
You're asking for a new use-of-force standards on and to stop racial profiling.
Now yesterday, your colleague Representative Ramirez on on the House Homeland Security Committee.
They heard from 3 leaders of Customs and immigration agencies within DHS and some of what we've heard DHS.
Is that unmasking or being able to identify those agents in the field could possibly lead to their doxing.
Their information being posted online are out in public.
Why shouldn't the agency, though, protect them from that kind of harassment or potential harassment, agents are protected just police officers and sheriffs and other law enforcement are protected across the country.
There is no difference in seeking people that they want to detain, apprehend place under deportation proceedings.
>> If police officers in communities in Chicago or anywhere else do wear a mask.
If state police don't wear mask, why should ice and CBP agents wear a mask?
Even our military doesn't wear a mask only in the most extraordinary circumstances.
>> Again, your colleague, Representative Ramirez, we heard in a sound bite earlier.
She's calling for the abolishment of ice.
She has introduced what she's calling the Melt Ice But you feel Do you think that the agency or you don't think that the agency should be dismantled entirely?
What are the reforms that you'd like to see?
How do you think it can be seen on oil eye?
On the contrary, the Department of Human part the Homeland Security was created almost 25 years ago.
They've trampled.
>> And the Constitution, they've a disservice to our country, their term rising communities.
It is impossible for this agency as we know to have any type of standing or trust in many communities across the country.
That's why public opinion has turned especially over the past several months.
The enforcement that they have done is in a defensible and they've murdered people.
You cannot rehabilitate an agency like that.
I believe that it needs to be dismantled.
It needs to be structured restructured that essentially calls forth.
Also a separation of agencies like the and Federal Emergency Management Agency to be placed elsewhere.
within this department, it's gone rogue and it's turned against the people and now its acting as mask.
The for Donald Trump.
>> All right.
Thank you for the clarity on that.
So I'm a you Gov of report.
Survey shows that 46% of people polled support abolishing ICE while 41% oppose 12% are unsure.
Additionally, a think tank called 3rd Way says that that kind of language hurts your argument with Republicans.
Is it not Congressman an extreme position kind of like Defund the police back in 2020.
Does that?
>> Make it difficult to actually achieve reform?
>> I think we can get a debate around semantics and different descriptions of what needs to happen.
What I think does need to happen is we need to re-establish a solid foundation and the rule of law and rebuild departments that are going to comply with the law and where there will be accountability.
Is these agencies have gone totally broke and violated the Constitution and have produced the shootings over 12 people.
Some of them fatally, as we've more recently.
But above all, we do never seen agency act the way that they had over the past several months.
All right.
That's where we'll have to leave it.
I know there's a lot going in your office.
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